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In an interview with Australian radio a religious scholar says young Somali-Australians who have gone to Somalia to fight with the terrorist group Al-Shabab have returned and are living in Australia. The terrorism raids in Melbourne last month focused attention on the issue of radicalization in the Somali community.
Islamic scholar Dr Hersi Hilole says Somali community leaders are worried about the situation and their children. National security correspondent Matt Brown reports.
[Brown] When the federal government added the Somali Islamist group Al-Shabab to its list of banned terrorist organizations last month, it cited a string of bombings in East Africa and alleged links to Al-Qa’idah. Usamah Bin-Ladin has even called on Muslims from around the world to join Al-Shabab’s fight against Somalia’s Western-backed government.
[Hilole] Al-Shabab is well known terrorist organization. Anyone who joins them can’t get out from them and whoever tries to get out from them will be killed.
[Brown] Somali-born Islamic scholar Hersi Hilole has been monitoring perceptions of Al-Shabab in the Australian Somali community. He says he has spoken to the parents of young men who have gone to fight in Somalia and who have come home to live in Australia.
[Hilole] Some of the parents told me that some young people came back from Somalia.
[Brown] Dr Hilole says these parents don’t know what to do about their ongoing concerns about their own offspring.
[Hilole] Some of them are worried because they think if the government knows this they will be persecuted, maybe. And some others think well they may also still be associated with these extremist groups.
[Brown] So even their parents aren’t sure?
[Hilole] Yes, even their parents aren’t sure the future of these young people.
[Brown] Hersi Hilole first raised the alarm about the radicalization of young Somali Australians back in 2007 when he was head of the Somali Community Council of Australia.
[Hilole] Because these young people dropped from the school, they are not working, so these religious people or religious teachers encourage them to go to war, rather than spending their time here.
[Brown] There are even suspicions these preachers are actually facilitators who smooth the path to jihad.
[Hilole] Sometimes they encourage them and provide them money and some other facilities that helps them to travel from here and there and so on.
[Brown] The claims against the alleged Melbourne terror cell are yet to be tested in court, but the episode has focused attention on broader concern in the Somali community that a small number of young men, brought up in families fractured by conflict, have lost their way.
[Hilole] They are worried about their sons because these young people are free now. Parents, especially mothers, do not have any control on them. Australian law provides freedom [for] these young people.
[Brown] Federal Police agents have had background contacts with the community and ASIO [Australian Security Intelligence Organization] has a close eye on several mosques. But the government didn’t comment about concerns that young men who may still be allied to Al-Shabab have returned from Somalia to Australia.
By Abdinasir Mohamed
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Al-Shabaab terrorists 'living in Australia'
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A Somali religious scholar claims young Somali-Australians who have gone to Somalia to fight with terrorist group Al-Shabaab have returned and are living in Australia.
When the Federal Government added the Somali Islamist group to its list of banned terrorist organisations last month it cited a string of bombings in east Africa and alleged links to Al Qaeda.
And the terrorism raids in Melbourne last month focused attention on the issue of radicalisation in the Somali community.
Osama bin Laden has even called on Muslims from around the world to join Al-Shabaab's fight against Somalia's western-backed government.
Somali-born Islamic scholar Dr Hersi Hilole says Somali community leaders have ongoing concerns about the problem.
"Al-Shabaab is a well-known terrorist organisation," he said.
"Anyone who joins them can't get out from them, and whoever tries to get out from them will be killed."
Dr Hilole says he has spoken to the parents of young men who have gone to fight in Somalia and who have come home to live in Australia.
He says the parents do not know what to do about their ongoing concerns about their own offspring.
"Some of them are worried because they think if the government knows this they will be persecuted maybe, and some others think they may also still be associated with these extremist groups," he said.
"Even their parents aren't sure the future of these young people."
Dr Hilole first raised the alarm about the radicalisation of young Somali Australians in 2007, when he was head of the Somali Community Council of Australia.
"Because these young people dropped from the school, they are not working, so these religious people, or religious teachers encourage them to go to war, rather than spending their time here," he said.
"Sometimes they encourage them and provide them money and some other facilities that helps them to travel from here and there and so on."
The claims against the alleged Melbourne terrorist cell are yet to be tested in court but the episode has focused attention on broader concern in the Somali community that a small number of young men, brought up in families fractured by conflict, have lost their way.
"They are worried about their sons because these young people are free now," Dr Hilole said.
"Parents, especially mothers do not have any control on them. Australian law provides freedom for these young people.'
Federal Police agents have had background contacts with the community and ASIO has a close eye on several mosques.
But the Government did not comment about concerns that young men, who may still be allied to Al-Shabaab, have returned from Somalia to Australia.
Dr Hilole says not enough has been done to check the preachers spreading radical messages in their community.
"The number of families that I talked to still believe that the issue is going on, nothing is done until now and still the young people are at risk."
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A Somali religious scholar claims young Somali-Australians who have gone to Somalia to fight with terrorist group Al-Shabaab have returned and are living in Australia.
When the Federal Government added the Somali Islamist group to its list of banned terrorist organisations last month it cited a string of bombings in east Africa and alleged links to Al Qaeda.
And the terrorism raids in Melbourne last month focused attention on the issue of radicalisation in the Somali community.
Osama bin Laden has even called on Muslims from around the world to join Al-Shabaab's fight against Somalia's western-backed government.
Somali-born Islamic scholar Dr Hersi Hilole says Somali community leaders have ongoing concerns about the problem.
"Al-Shabaab is a well-known terrorist organisation," he said.
"Anyone who joins them can't get out from them, and whoever tries to get out from them will be killed."
Dr Hilole says he has spoken to the parents of young men who have gone to fight in Somalia and who have come home to live in Australia.
He says the parents do not know what to do about their ongoing concerns about their own offspring.
"Some of them are worried because they think if the government knows this they will be persecuted maybe, and some others think they may also still be associated with these extremist groups," he said.
"Even their parents aren't sure the future of these young people."
Dr Hilole first raised the alarm about the radicalisation of young Somali Australians in 2007, when he was head of the Somali Community Council of Australia.
"Because these young people dropped from the school, they are not working, so these religious people, or religious teachers encourage them to go to war, rather than spending their time here," he said.
"Sometimes they encourage them and provide them money and some other facilities that helps them to travel from here and there and so on."
The claims against the alleged Melbourne terrorist cell are yet to be tested in court but the episode has focused attention on broader concern in the Somali community that a small number of young men, brought up in families fractured by conflict, have lost their way.
"They are worried about their sons because these young people are free now," Dr Hilole said.
"Parents, especially mothers do not have any control on them. Australian law provides freedom for these young people.'
Federal Police agents have had background contacts with the community and ASIO has a close eye on several mosques.
But the Government did not comment about concerns that young men, who may still be allied to Al-Shabaab, have returned from Somalia to Australia.
Dr Hilole says not enough has been done to check the preachers spreading radical messages in their community.
"The number of families that I talked to still believe that the issue is going on, nothing is done until now and still the young people are at risk."
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Young Somali fighters return to live in Australia
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This transcript corresponds with the Radio National broadcast. It will be replaced with the transcript for the local radio broadcast at 10am.
MATT BROWN: When the Federal Government added the Somali Islamist group al-Shabaab to its list of banned terrorist organisations last month, it cited a string of bombings in east Africa and alleged links to Al Qaeda.
Osama bin Laden has even called on Muslims from around the world to join al-Shabaab's fight against Somalia's western-backed government.
HERSE HILOLE: Al-Shabaab is well-known terrorist organisation, anyone who joins them can't get out from them and whoever tries to get out from them will be killed.
MATT BROWN: Somali-born Islamic scholar Herse Hilole has been monitoring perceptions of al-Shabaab in the Australian Somali community.
Despite the group's ruthlessness he says he's spoken to the parents of young men who've gone to fight in Somalia, and who've come home to live in Australia.
HERSE HILOLE: Some of the parents told me that some young people came back from Somalia.
MATT BROWN: Dr Hilole says the parents don't know what to do about their ongoing concerns about their own offspring.
HERSE HILOLE: Some of them are worried because they think if the government knows this they will be persecuted maybe, and some others think well, they may also still be associated with these extremist groups.
MATT BROWN: So even their parents aren't sure?
HERSE HILOLE: Yes, even their parents aren't sure the future of these young people.
MATT BROWN: Herse Hilole first raised the alarm about the radicalisation of young Somali Australians back in 2007 when he was head of the Somali Community Council of Australia.
HERSE HILOLE: Because these young people dropped from the school, they are not working, so these religious people, or religious teachers encourage them to go to war, rather than spending their time here.
MATT BROWN: There are even suspicions these preachers are actually facilitators who smooth the path to jihad.
HERSE HILOLE: Sometimes they encourage them and provide them money and some other facilities that helps them to travel from here and there and so on.
MATT BROWN: The claims against the alleged Melbourne terror cell are yet to be tested in court, but the episode has focussed attention on broader concern in the Somali community that a small number of young men, brought up in families fractured by conflict, have lost their way.
HERSE HILOLE: They are worried about their sons because these young people are free now. Parents, especially mothers do not have any control on them. Australian law provides freedom these young people.
MATT BROWN: Federal Police agents have had background contacts with the community and ASIO has a close eye on several mosques.
But the Government didn't comment about concerns that young men who may still be allied to al-Shabaab have returned from Somalia to Australia.
Herse Hilole says not enough has been done to check the preachers spreading radical messages in their community.
HERSE HILOLE: The number of families that I talked to still believe that the issue is going on, nothing is done until now and still the young people are at risk.
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This transcript corresponds with the Radio National broadcast. It will be replaced with the transcript for the local radio broadcast at 10am.
MATT BROWN: When the Federal Government added the Somali Islamist group al-Shabaab to its list of banned terrorist organisations last month, it cited a string of bombings in east Africa and alleged links to Al Qaeda.
Osama bin Laden has even called on Muslims from around the world to join al-Shabaab's fight against Somalia's western-backed government.
HERSE HILOLE: Al-Shabaab is well-known terrorist organisation, anyone who joins them can't get out from them and whoever tries to get out from them will be killed.
MATT BROWN: Somali-born Islamic scholar Herse Hilole has been monitoring perceptions of al-Shabaab in the Australian Somali community.
Despite the group's ruthlessness he says he's spoken to the parents of young men who've gone to fight in Somalia, and who've come home to live in Australia.
HERSE HILOLE: Some of the parents told me that some young people came back from Somalia.
MATT BROWN: Dr Hilole says the parents don't know what to do about their ongoing concerns about their own offspring.
HERSE HILOLE: Some of them are worried because they think if the government knows this they will be persecuted maybe, and some others think well, they may also still be associated with these extremist groups.
MATT BROWN: So even their parents aren't sure?
HERSE HILOLE: Yes, even their parents aren't sure the future of these young people.
MATT BROWN: Herse Hilole first raised the alarm about the radicalisation of young Somali Australians back in 2007 when he was head of the Somali Community Council of Australia.
HERSE HILOLE: Because these young people dropped from the school, they are not working, so these religious people, or religious teachers encourage them to go to war, rather than spending their time here.
MATT BROWN: There are even suspicions these preachers are actually facilitators who smooth the path to jihad.
HERSE HILOLE: Sometimes they encourage them and provide them money and some other facilities that helps them to travel from here and there and so on.
MATT BROWN: The claims against the alleged Melbourne terror cell are yet to be tested in court, but the episode has focussed attention on broader concern in the Somali community that a small number of young men, brought up in families fractured by conflict, have lost their way.
HERSE HILOLE: They are worried about their sons because these young people are free now. Parents, especially mothers do not have any control on them. Australian law provides freedom these young people.
MATT BROWN: Federal Police agents have had background contacts with the community and ASIO has a close eye on several mosques.
But the Government didn't comment about concerns that young men who may still be allied to al-Shabaab have returned from Somalia to Australia.
Herse Hilole says not enough has been done to check the preachers spreading radical messages in their community.
HERSE HILOLE: The number of families that I talked to still believe that the issue is going on, nothing is done until now and still the young people are at risk.
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Huawei pours cold water on Oz spy probe reports
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By John Leyden
Posted in Telecoms, 7th September 2009 12:45 GMT
Chinese networking equipment maker Huawei has denied reports that Australian security agencies are investigating its business.
Huawei told Bloomberg that it met the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) back in June only for what's described as a "routine briefing". Suspicions that there might be something more to he meeting than that were raised last week after The Australian published an unsourced report claiming Huawei is employing "technicians in Australia with direct links to the People’s Liberation Army".
The Chinese networking firm reportedly dismissed "several dozen" of its Australian-born workforce, replacing them with Chinese nationals. These Chinese nationals have allegedly been spotted meeting officials at Chinese embassies and consulates in Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne. Huawei employs 120 workers in Australia, 100 in Melbourne and the rest in Sydney.
Huawei said it is normal for a large business operating overseas to have links with its embassy staff. "Our links to the government are no more than any links General Electric might have to the US government, due to the fact that some members of its management team are military veterans and they sell products to the US military," a spokesman told trade publication Telecom Tiger.
Huawei, which was founded by an ex-People's Liberation Army officer, has run into similar concerns in other western countries including the UK, USA and India. For example, Huawei's bid to take over 3Com floundered because 3Com's TippingPoint division supplies intrusion prevention anti-hacker technology to the US military.
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By John Leyden
Posted in Telecoms, 7th September 2009 12:45 GMT
Chinese networking equipment maker Huawei has denied reports that Australian security agencies are investigating its business.
Huawei told Bloomberg that it met the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) back in June only for what's described as a "routine briefing". Suspicions that there might be something more to he meeting than that were raised last week after The Australian published an unsourced report claiming Huawei is employing "technicians in Australia with direct links to the People’s Liberation Army".
The Chinese networking firm reportedly dismissed "several dozen" of its Australian-born workforce, replacing them with Chinese nationals. These Chinese nationals have allegedly been spotted meeting officials at Chinese embassies and consulates in Canberra, Sydney and Melbourne. Huawei employs 120 workers in Australia, 100 in Melbourne and the rest in Sydney.
Huawei said it is normal for a large business operating overseas to have links with its embassy staff. "Our links to the government are no more than any links General Electric might have to the US government, due to the fact that some members of its management team are military veterans and they sell products to the US military," a spokesman told trade publication Telecom Tiger.
Huawei, which was founded by an ex-People's Liberation Army officer, has run into similar concerns in other western countries including the UK, USA and India. For example, Huawei's bid to take over 3Com floundered because 3Com's TippingPoint division supplies intrusion prevention anti-hacker technology to the US military.
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